senate, he was advised to go to jackson and get some help from jackson regarding foreign policy issues, domestic policy issues, but even more important, his speaking -- his oratory needed some work and they thought jesse could help him. and jackson agreed to do so. and every saturday for a whole year, barack obama was invited to the push rainbow meeting that jackson held, where jackson worked with obama on his oratory and his delivery of speeches, and he improved tremendously. guess what? since he was elected president, president barack obama has not invited jesse jackson to the white house once. he is totally, completely cut himself off from jesse jackson. no one seems to know exactly why, except that it appears that it would -- that there would be a -- the object of jackson being in the white house might give a signal to white voters that obama is in jackson's corner politically. and apparently obama doesn't want to do that. >> host: you write: if karl rove was george w. bush's brians, then david axlerod is barack barack obama's homer. >> guest: is what? >> host: homer. >> guest: tha